But otherwise no. I tried to increase the leg openings for some trousers (up to 20cm, especially for tailored trousers) during the bespoke process, but they didnt look great. Cordovan will not really stretch on its own. Lighter color Shell Cordovan are more difficult to source. Thank you! Hello Simon. At that time I dont think any UK shoe manufacturers sold cordovan. I am glad you have become a convert to shell cordovan, Simon. Yes thats right. Its generally not possible to do much. I think that shows how Alden from a make point of view is really mid-range or lower the expectations get rather inflated outside the US by the prices, and particularly the extra price of cordovan. Absolutely! Not sure what could fix it either other than having the sole off and seeing if its the shank. And perhaps somewhere that wasnt used to that colour. But yes, those are pretty slim legs so ideally a slimmer last might work better. They also offer a greater range of widths than most makers. Many thanks in advance! I have inherited a pair of Church cordovan brogues. Because of my experience in Barrie I ordered the 684 in 7E as well, thinking theyd be somewhere in between my previous two considering the slimmer Aberdeen last. If you do get caught in an unexpected downpour, dont fret, as a quick remedy can be achieved. Hi Simon, r/goodyearwelt Alden Whiskey Shell Longwings . Note: Since there is no base adhering to the pores of the shell, like you have with leather, be careful with excess pressure, wax, and water. BTW, the Adlen Copley and Grant lasts are particularly comfortable lasts which to my eye are more refined looking than the Barrie and Van lasts but dont sacrifice comfort (at least for my feet). I always have to in US sizes. But the fact that both companies price their cordovan shoes similarly and none is a fashion or design brand, tend to indicate that the quality of the leather should be comparable. The timing could have not been better! Im normally an 8.5 in UK shoes, and I went for a 9.5 in the Barrie. I think what Im getting at, is in this more casual modern day we find ourselves in, it is a very useful leather. Any particular misgivings about Carmina? I wore them until the welt could not stand up to another repair. Do Not try to polish shoes while wet. Trumps protectionism was focused on imposing and raising tariffs. hi simon, been looking to purchase a casual shoe like this from paraboot (https://www.paraboot.com/en/men/boat-shoes/barthmarine-marron-america) and will be my first foray into this colour. Gabucci in Sweden has the tassel loafer, which is my second-favourite Alden loafer. interesting, the colour 8 in that drakes photo is more red/burgundy than your colour 8 full strap above. There is no black/purple look that I see from your pair. No worries at all all comments are always welcome, on any vaguely related post. Shell cordovan shoes are discussed and debated about ad nauseam in fashion forums, often looked at as a holy grail of mens footwear. Ah well, True. Ive always somehow found that look somehow silly on me. Thank you. The quality of Aldens soles is rather poor. This is one of the reasons to use a beeswax-based protective cream or wax on the surface of your shell, to help protect you from unexpected rain showers resulting in unpleasant spotting across the surface. Finally, even scratches and nicks can be rubbed out to an extent, with the help of a deer bone (shown above, For a more detailed breakdown of these steps, with illustrations, Jesper has a good guide. You may be the only person on the net with good information on Cordovan! It looks very similar to just calf, Off Topic: This comment section gave me once more the evidence on how a good portion of clothing buyer population is mostly driven by instinct rather than a more rational processlook how many people repetitively asked for your jeans details without seeing that you already well explained about them or in other cases they ask for something which is very well explained in the article itself what a superficiality!! A decent page on this is here https://stridewise.com/is-cordovan-leather/. I would sincerely appreciate your guidance as I am currently deciding which way to go for a pair of cordovan tassel loafers. Hey, Ive been following you for a long time, and I really like getting to know about quality clothing. The cordovan doesnt break down due to it, but other parts of the shoe can. i think all i need is another 3-4mm wider. Thanks for your response. Do you have any tips to reduce that sound ? As you say, a very subtle charm. You make a very good case of cordovan loafers with dark denim . Hi Simon, I just bought a pair of Alden Plain Toe Blucher in Color 8 when in New York. Very limited grounds for complaint generally, and even then its better to focus on all of the options that are readily available vs. whats not. Shell cordovan doesnt have pores that can accept the pigment in most colored creams, the same way calfskin or other smooth-out leathers can. Im glad to hear that, though it sounds like you have misunderstood slightly. Hi Simon, did you have to size up or down for the Alden Norwegian Blucher? I got it, the best way to learn whether it for you or not is to actually test it by yourself Bet that poses a challenge in cleaning and polishing with natural cremes. A lot of cordovan polish? Michael, I wouldnt personally Michael. Im a little particular about a belt being similar i colour to the shoe colour. Color #8. Hmm. They do a lot of boots, Red Wings etc. Ross Hilton: Sorry, havent seen that type of issue on cordovan, sounds like the actual shell membrane has worn down and youve reached the corium of the hide, but dont know what would potentially work best. Sign up for the Ashland Newsletter for the latest on new products, leather care tips and sales. Cordovan possesses a natural shine, even without additional products. As Nick Horween told us on that tannery visit, this colour 8 makes up about 65% of their cordovan production. It too is casual, and in a smart office I wouldnt wear it with a smart suit. So if you know that you have feet that perspire quite a lot and easily get warm, have this in mind, and at least not buy cordovan shoes you intend to wear during summer months. Also, curious to know how you compare this new pair of Blackhorse Lane jeans after your Levis experience? If it is the same (quality level) of raw material, and making allowances for the sole and other ancillary materials, that would make the $1,300 difference between Alden/Carmina and EG entirely down to make/finish, which seems like a lot. What about colored cream vs neutral cream? The reason for that is I went with a narrower last than is standard (the Aberdeen, rather than the Van). I have wanted a pair of cordovan tassel loafers for decades. Any thoughts? Ive got two where the cordovan has a hatch grain to it. The reason I did that was that Id always found the classic Van-last loafers to be too chunky for me. There have been plenty of examples of how Color 8 patinates over time, including this one from Horween itself. This will allow you to begin buffing with water droplets, for a mirror shine. There is no damage to the uppers, but I want to restore the natural shine and color. In the winter, I will wipe my shoes with a damp cloth at the end of the day to remove any salt, a Chicago-type climate concern. In addition to limited supply, shell cordovan requires an intense tanning process that can take six months to produce. Do you mind to share what US size and width do you you wear in this Alden loafer in Aberdeen last? Thanks Simon, that is a very important point you make and something Ill need to research, while my mind is still conflicted, that would be the starting point. PS Presents 23: Arterton, LEJ, Marrkt, Fox and Rubato, Click on an image to enlarge. I'm a relatively recent convert to cordovan, but have come to love it as I've started to wear more casual clothing, and darker colours. They havent really changed from this colour to be honest what do you mean by washed exactly? they are easy to take care of and Alden refurbishment is well worth it. The purple/black colour is dark enough to go with lots of materials and styles of trousers, from denim to flannels. Dont know if you have seen something like this can this be treated or is it just even cordovan giving up after too much abuse? I was curious about the width since you wrote in your article that after five or six hours of being out and about in town, [the alden loafers] start to hurt. Id find it far too scratchy against the skin with anything less underneath anyway. They obviously look different, but wondering whether youd have them in the same category as not being obviously better than brown or black. Hey Simon, Others undoubtedly picked up Allen Edmonds Park Avenues. READ!!!! I dont Im afraid, but Id be surprised if you dont have to go up at least a half size. My 9 c/e in cordovan feels nicely tight after 2 month with some capability of stretching without slipping from the foot while walking. Theyre also a bit smaller in the waist, but thats a fit thing, not a style one, 2. Simon I just received a pair of Alden Cordovan chukkas, do you recommend shoe trees for storage? I suppose the one generalization that fits, however, is on finish. BTW, Shellac is like a lacquer, used in felt hat making too. They have burgundy, dark brown and black Lovely though the Aldens look, the associated hassle and inflated costs of getting them over the pond are significant deterrents for now. I have two pairs of Cordovans from Vass. The Aberdeen last wasnt available at the time. The 9.5 feels very comfy from the start. I dont know what last theyre on, but Id suggest that theyre probably still a relatively casual shoe with a suit which woiuldnt matter in most places, most of the time. I was worried that Fiebings dye would be too aggressive, but in the future if I wanted to do a proper dye job, I might dilute some Fiebings dye rather than try the Saphir product. Welcome to cordovan;-) Ive had the same Aldens as you for at least 15 years. I can see a grey being useful, but that's about all probably. Its different. Vintage or secondhand pairs cut that cost dramatically, but you have to keep in mind the fact that shell cordovan, once worn in, maintains its crease (or ripple) from the previous owner. that I have kicked around quite badly. It is the oiled, worn-in look of cordovan that makes them work. No problem at all. Id lusted after a pair of shell cordovan shoes for a long time before I was able to get my hands on a pair for myself. Take them into a good cobbler and it may not all be lost. Alas, they arrived as composites of three pieces , and look quite scuffed after just light wear. Footwear can be exciting but your initial investment (emphasis on investment) should give you the most return. I mean, I see cons, but what exact reasons of yours? Same on the eyelets. : Everything. You use colored cream on cordovan shell to keep uniform coloration across the waxes that protect the outer surface. Who should buy Crockett & Jones. No comparison to Rendenbach soles. Wouldnt you say that a black cordovan loafer is more casual than a black calf one, and perhaps comparable to a black suede one? Gear Patrol participates in various affiliate marketing programs, which means we may get paid commissions on editorially chosen products purchased through our links to retailer sites. Love it! Unlined cordovan loafers. Dmitriv Yastrebov: Some of the reasons are explained in the article, also I personally dont like the plasticky feel of it. On a different topic, that Ecru Shetland that you are wearing in the pictures, is it see through? In my experience they do stretch. And what color socks would you wear? . I myself have never seen a Barrie lasted loafer from them. also since the colour is quite close to cordovan 8, can the shoe be used in situations where cordovan would have been used? What about a suit lower down the formality scale, say a mid Grey flannel? Thanks! A shirtmaker is telling me he is worried the Chambray Cloth might not be enough for a shirt (1.1 x 2.5m). On the contrary, I found Carminas work to be much cleaner in the pairs Ive checked. I actually went up a half size on the jumper boots, but that was because I knew Id wear them with really thick socks in winter. It is definitely a breakdown of the surface. The low supply and high demand for shell cordovan means the stuff aint cheap. Please. I dont think you should try and match too closely Neil see post here. I have been looking to buy Cordovan 8 Alden Full Strap.I have tried Steffan. But Im not sure thats a reason to go with it both will be the same before long, Hi Simon. The colour is, I think a brown/burgundy. Hey Rogey, I had been trying to buy some Alden Indy boots in cigar shell and for months none appeared on eBay, Grailed or Styleforum. The loafers shown above - my Alden full-straps on the Aberdeen last - look almost black in this light. I should also warn any descendants of Isadore Horween against reading further, as the images below may be too horrifying for you to bear. I've posted this picture a few times over the years and the responses are always very positive. Thats due to the way shell cordovan is made. I love loafers but I have a high instep and wide feet. Thank you! This was a perfect primer for the unique characteristics of Cordovan. The low supply and high demand for shell cordovan means the stuff ain't cheap. Thanks Quentin. Cordovan works well in combination with calf leather if you are going down the bespoke route. And as mentioned, most burgundy/oxblood isnt as nice as the colour 8. Follow me on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theelegantoxford/?hl=enFollow me on Facebook: https://m.facebook.com/theelegantoxford/ But perhaps because I carry on using cream now and again. Drakes also has different permutations. But then that might also mean your heel slips more. Pardon my ignorance, but is there a historic and/or cultural basis for favoring of burgundy / number 8 shoes in the United States? Looking forward to welcoming you to Atlanta one day. They simpy cost too much to take the chance, in my view. A couple of questions if you wouldnt mind: 1. Ashland Leather Co. 6.24K subscribers Shell cordovan is hot stuffed with an incredible amount of waxes, oils, and greases. Some like that sturdiness, while some dislike it and have a hard time breaking in corodovan shoes and getting them comfortable due to this, a bit depending on how sensitive your feet are. Beautiful shoes and a perfect fit. But black is always going to be limiting with more casual clothes and cordovan doesnt mitigate that much. Perhaps a very small amount, but any actual fit issues havent changed. Thank you, To be honest Hugh I wear them the same as any normal black shoe, and its fine. I would avoid that combination unless it really would be an exception shoe with a lot of other more versatile shoes in the collection. I bought some cordovan (Horween) derby from Churchs some time ago thinking that they were going to get that kind of patina that Aldens colour 8 gets and, unfortunately, it never happened. Couldnt find anywhere in Uk. The reason for that is I went with a narrower last than is standard (the Aberdeen, rather than the Van). If youre not in the right financial position, your feet can wait. The quality is often better than Alden, but the styles are smarter in general. The problem is, I cannot think of another leather that fills the void that cordovan, colour 8 (the darkest variation) specifically, does. I know you mentioned in this post, you prefer the slimmer lasts. Yes, Van is wider so theres a lot more room in there, though I didnt find going a half size down worked for me that made the loafer too short on the toes. Was I drowning in cash, my next pair would be more adventurous. Certainly, very comfortable and quite capable of surviving a downpour or two, although I still have my old habit of stuffing with newspaper if they are very wet(military habits die hard). I think its because the cordovan is a single, flat colour and so doesnt get as much of the variation of other colours like no 8 shown here. They were one of the best pieces of footwear I have ever worn; always smart and shiny in the the Cherry Black that you describe. For example, my Edward Green boots here could look good with both but theyd be a fairly smart, sleek look with denim. No, this was a slimmer prototype I was trying. For a more detailed breakdown of these steps, with illustrations, Jesper has a good guide here. Yes, I think makers that arent used to it will avoid it if they can. 9E in the Barrie. The BHL jeans, while not the NW1, seem to be similar to those in terms of rise and top block proportions and just slimmer from the knee down. After your visit to Anatomica, would you be tempted to size down in width, or would that be specific to the modified last? The cultural association of shoes is fascinating to me. Yes white marks can appear just from the natural oils in the leather, and its a danger with using cream. Im looking forward to stopping by! Ive wanted to get a pair of boots that could go comfortably with jeans and, at a push, flannels for poor weather days. However; my more (ahem) refined tastes always lean toward something like a Cordovan. What are the plusses and minuses? More than one cordwainer has told me that he didnt like working with it. The earliest documented use of horse leather was in the 7th century in Spain and Cordoba, in particular, was a region known for its horse leather tanning. These are narrow, yes, and I do plan to try stretching them. Hi Simon great post. These have been so informative since I found your site about 2 years ago. Since I have never worn CordovanOr a dress boot for that matterI cant say I prefer one over the other. I do love these shoes. Also the Cavendish is my first pair of Crocketts and Im now inclined for more. Finished products tend to improve with wear, but also forgotten or dead stock bundles exhibit positive change - excess waxes and oils migrate to the surface, colors deepen and redden, and sun fades or darkens. Do make sure you like the chukka boot style though as in, you know you would wear that boot with what you want it for. You could wear most things, the versatility point was more about colours and materials things might look best with. To generalize about Alden is difficult as they offer eleven different lasts in a wide range of lengths (US6 to US15) and widths (AA to EEEE), many different models, and many different leathers (Horween Chromexcel & cordovan, suedes, calfskins, etc. Yes Id love to get down to Atlanta. After taking them off for the day, use a damp cloth for a quick wipedown. If they are NOS (new old stock) and havent been worn, touched, or developed any sort of patina, do your best to color-match cream polishes. This might have been a touch too slim in the leg particularly after a few washes, which they hadnt had at this stage. I recently considered getting a pair of Aldens but after learning that theyre a sustainer of the horse slaughtering industry I will be looking elsewhere. This particular pair of shoes is a pair owned by Tom from back in 2001. If it hasnt been ripped or torn, you can start first with a good wipe-down, thorough cleaning, and conditioning. Its puzzling really why they dont step it up in this area. Personally I wasnt that keen on the lasts, which surprised me given they were partly designed by Yohei Fukuda as I recall. Kind of like the abrasions you can get on suede where you get light streaks in the nap. Gents! Hi Simon, Its not an Alden thing, by the way - its the same with my Edward Green black cordovan (shown below). It gleams like nobodys business in shops selling them, Kirby has a good video on that here, Hello Simon: Are the Alden versions sufficiently versatile to wear with flannel, cords, and cavalry twill, maybe with an appropriate sports coat? However, Alden also put an extra coat on their cordovan when they receive it, making their colour 8 slightly darker and deeper. Much appreciated. I wouldnt wear that style with anything remotely smart. Dyes added will make the hide darker as it goes through the tanning process. For new shell cordovan shoes, you will want to establish a fixed flex-point. Do you think these in Dark Cognac cordovan would work with something like grey flannels as the top end of the formality scale? Now when I have nightmares where Im running in slow motion and zombie Hitler is chasing me on a horse-sized scorpion with my grandmothers face, these are the shoes Im wearing. Most stock the classic penny, on the Van last, and the US stores arent allowed to ship outside of the country. Well, most people arent buying them as a waterproof shoe necessarily. Mine is quite a gab and is a great resource on shoe information and will even look over an Ebay listing for you to inspect: them. And, scuffs, are dealt-with through heat and friction rubbing out. Do you send them back to Aldens factory in the US or do you use a local service? Works like a charm and that is all they need as regards shoe care products. Or other reason? However, all oils oxidize over time, so conditioning and replacing the waxes and oils, is a beneficial step that we recommend every 10-15 wears. Simon, I have approx. 379X Military Last. A neutral polish, if you want to maintain the patina that has developed over time. Crocodile is my favourite but can be fiercely expensive.but I dont feel the need to tell people when wearing them !!! Many thanks We highly recommend letting your shell cordovan develop and patina naturally over time! I especially enjoy it punched and brogued. Trying to figure out, do I actually need a pair of cordovan shoes. @Ross It cost me 20% of my (then) monthly salary. But whether it was the best choice depends a lot on what you else you wear? great post, as we are used to it! last year (shown below). As to other colours, I havent tried the whisky colour, or dark brown, but I would like to at some stage. The contrary, I havent tried the whisky colour, or dark brown, but there. 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