It can be applied with a brush because of it self leveling properties but you get a better finish from an airbrush. I also thin it with hardware store thinner. I have been using Testors gloss and dull cotes for over 30 years with. I don't typically use Glosscote for a glossy finish--I just like it because it's a nice lacquer layer to do acrylic weathering over, and it dries quickly. There is also less chance of "lifting" paint if you use thin coats. Some years of that career i worked in a labo, and there i learned all this stuff. When you put one thick layer of clear coat, the solvents need a long time to vaporize, and will effect the acrylic paint, with the well know results. Thinner: - all enamel solvents, Model Master Testors Acrylic I start with a 1:1 mix and alter it thinner if needed. Add product to wishlist. First you need to know from which substances windscreen wiper fluid is made, and this is fairly simple : shampoo, windex, dish soap and methanol that is also present in the windex fluid. It's an acrylic cleat coat, water-washup, thins easily with Windex or isopropyl alcohol or distilled water, airbrushes well, and goes on super flat. For lacquers and acrylics I'll use the Testors gloss and dull, for MM enamels I'll stick to Micro clear products. Your link has been automatically embedded. Air presser should be around 18-20 PSI So, they sell three bottles of gloss, satin and flat, labeled Custom Enamel System, but the thinner is labeled Custom Enamel System Lacquer Thinner. I would just use Tamiya spray gloss as a direct substitute to the Testor's gloss. Sounds interesting. 50/50 was what I saw as the common split, what do you do Rick? Just I'm risk averse. Chief Engineer, Colvin Creek Railway. Too little Flat Base have no effect on the paint. $7.09. It is crystal clear in color and designed for use with painted model cars and trucks. I swear by using Future as my decal solvent. All rights reserved. ", It's very thin out of the jug so no thinning necessary. Testors Model Paint Auto Detail Enamel Paint Set 8 Colors + Thinner + brush 9120 . It is also great for applying decals . My shop doesn't carry it. View our, Tools, Techniques, and Reference Materials. Yeah, I know. For clear coats it will yellow in time because of the negative effect of the soap on, one of the substances, the paste. Product details. Help other shoppers make informed decisions by reviewing your purchase. 'None so far hold a candle to Testors. Bill, its not necessary to thin it if you spray it at about 15 - 20psi. However, the whole affair has left me a little anxious to the problem, I would like to eliminate the risk altogether, so I am wondering if anyone has any suggestions for a "safe" gloss coat that can be used over acrylics (I use Tamiya, Vallejo, Lifecolor and am moving away from Gunze because of this). It can be used over all Testor/Pactra/Model . Yannis it is interesting you highlight micro set and Microsol difference! For a while I used lacquer thinner at about 50%, but it crazed the paint I was using at the time. Reply to this topic; Start new topic; Recommended Posts. 9/16/186:30 AM. For questions or concerns regarding recent orders or product availability, please contact us. One thing is for sure, these clear coats can used on acrylic coats, no problem at all, that i allready tryed, but i need a good clear coat which give me a smooth and nice layer image. Display as a link instead, I have the ratio down fine, I just need to know if misting light coats is ok, or do you need to let a sort of 'pool' build up a little bit as you sweep the airbrush back and forth? I use both Testors gloss and dull cote and use Home Depot LT to thin it about 20% LT and rest Testors stuff. Short answer yes. I never give my chalk weathering a final clear finish as there is more than sufficient tooth to the Dullcoat to hold it in place . even when handled from time to time. Heres a link with a lot of good information on . Read the full FAQ. i read that a while back and forgot to bookmark it later on. The hobby shop called me, said that Testor's quit producing the thinner they say is the ONLY one to use, but still produce the Gloss and Dullcote. Activity by Genre I'm interested to see examples of applications if anyone cares to share? I will give Tamiya X-22 a go since it is Acrylic. I've also used Rustoleum gloss and matte clears on all kinds of spray and brush on . Best Sellers Rank: #178,031 in Beauty & Personal Care ( See Top 100 in Beauty & Personal Care) #1,154 in Lip Gloss. For the small scales, this is usually faster and easier than setting up an airbrush. I just sprayed my A-6E this past weekend with Testors Glosscote thinned about, 40 to 50% with Lacquer thinner. You can also use the Levelling variety, or even Tamiya's own branded lacquer thinner. Too many models to build, not enough time in a lifetime!! I use Testers Model Master Acrylics for to color / base coats leaving a flat finish. floor polish is an alternative, but, as others have said, any clear acrylic should work. I know, many modelers used this, and say, "that works fine for me", but windscreen wiper fluid causes more then only thinning the paint. Testors TES1261 Glosscote Spray Enamel 3Oz, Clear Coat (Pack of 4) - with Make Y . Option B which is far lower cost is to use Future Floor wax which is now called Pledge Floor Gloss. One advantage is that semi-gloss (semi-matt?) C-415 Build: https://imageshack.com/a/tShC/1, Other builds: https://imageshack.com/my/albums. Usually I start out with the normal paints at about 25% thinner and thin more from there if it is not quite spraying well. Ah, yes- Future, the SC Johnson marketing department has changed the product name a number of times, to the confusion of housewives, customers and scale modelers around the world. Explaining Testors clear coats. Works well. Flat; 3 parts paint to 1 part thinner, You as well, your latest F-4 looks outstanding. Our community is FREE to join. Working pressure is approx 12 psi. Deposit limits will apply. Create new account. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acrylic_paint. Alcohol seems to make it dry faster but sometimes the aspect is not so good and doesn't self-level as good as with Tamiya lacquer thinner. I wasn't expecting the x22 votes. Clear Glosscote Spray Testors Testors. But it does NOT dry as flat as dullcote. It resists external elements easily. That will be one less coat of gloss over the metal. We do not sell, rent or trade our email lists. About See All. I have recently tackled a bunch of car building projects while I take my time building my layout room I wanted to make a dent in my rolling stock fleet. If you use a dirty brush your gloss coat may have as tint. Join our email list to receive our Weekly Ad, special promotions, fun project ideas and store news. By this I mean products from Modelflex, Polly S and the manufacturer of Microset/Microsol. "Do you thin Future, if so with what? After spending hours building, I don't want to risk mucking it up with the painting. Be careful not to go to far to the left or you will find yourself in double-action. A single coat is all you need, do not go back and "thicken it up". I've done close to 200 builds, so far, and still have almost half a quart still. The trick here is to not spray it on wet. I don't thin X22, I just spray it in very thin layers with a slightly higher pressure than thinned Tamiya acrylic paint. no problems. I was going to try the laquer thinner blend. Interesting find Prof! Yes both Dullcote and Glosscote will yellow with age - I have a Hasagawa 1/72 P-47 on the shelf that I built back in the early 80s. Must be clear coated in 2 hours. Since I'm working on a project that has Testors Acryl paint on it and I wanted to gloss coat it for decals, I decided to contact Testors regarding the use of their clear coat sprays. Long answer is proceed with caution. Upload or insert images from URL. Gloss; 3 parts paint to 2 parts thinner It seems to work well either way. They're still on the Rustoleum website, along with the same products in 1 oz bottles. But there nothing better than one's own experience, so you can try yourself and see what you get. Then, you will used a solvent based clear coat like Alclad, that's ok, because you can do that, but only if you airbrush the Alclad clear coat in very thin layers with a pause of several minutes between the layerswhy?? Not now. Another advantage of this clear coat is that it is very resistant to wear and tear. In general, use the manufacturer's clear coat. I'd agree with Kev -Tamiya X22 is great. I not sure if everyone knows this but the Future product from Johnsons is a natural product. The solvents in the clear coate need time to vaporize, if you put thin layers on you're model, then the solvents will not have the time to tackle the acrylic paint underneat, but vaporize in an instand. Choose your favorite color of paint (sold separately), allow it to dry completely, then apply this top . Anyway, thanks all for the help, much appreciated. My bottle is pretty old too, since I usually use the rattle can. I have subsequently learnt that this is a known problem in that combination of products, over the weekend at a modeling show I was told to just apply very thin coats of Future. Any decal can be sealed with Testors Glosscote or Dullcoat, but. Do you thin Future, if so with what? But maybe the most importand fact is the methanol. Spray Glosscote 3 oz. Please paste your code into the box below: Note: Your browser does not have JavaScript enabled. If I want an absolutely dead flat finish ( great for applying chalk weathering ) I reduce it by the same proportion with laquer thinners. I airbrush several light coats and it drys to a thin, high gloss finish. This YouTube Video shows you how to use your Aztek Airbrush in Double Action. Just a little bit of this fluid has enough toxic that it will damage seriously you're health. You know, Don, I rattle-canned a coat of glosscoat on my BF-109 WIP, and it turned out pretty good. If you do want to thin it use distilled water. You may use a small soft brush or your fingers to assist you in holding the film in place. Auto Lacquers will dry to the touch in minutes; they require 24 hours for a full cure. So, mist it? Testors 1260 may be labeled as Spray Enamel or as Spray Lacquer. I've been using it with great success on 1/35 military and 1/72 aircraft kits for the past ten years or so. All of these thinners are relatively mild, but do a great job on these paints - better than any other alternative I've tried. This fluid is the most dangerous part of the the whole windscreen fluid, because it's very toxic. It may cost me more, but compared to the cost of the model, it's small. Ive used Tamiya X22, but my current favorite is Mission Models Clear Gloss, however I dont know if its available in Austrailia. notE: the numbers listed below are only a guide and may vary from color to color. I wonder,can I spray Testors G :D losscote as it is ,or must I thin it ??????? A couple examples before using Tamiya Gloss and Testors Dullcote, Charlie DuckworthModeling the MP Bagnell Branch and RI in Eldon, Missouri. Some time ago I experienced cracking of Gunze paint after applying a thick coat of Future. To avoid possible wrinkling, recoat withing 3 hours or after 48 hours. 1148 or No. It survived and drank whiskey and played poker with the locals 'til the Texas Rangers caught wind of it and shot it dead.". I use both Testors gloss and dull cote and use Home Depot LT to thin it about 20% LT and rest Testors stuff. Do any of you that use it have an alternate that works for you? Pascoes "Long Life" floor polish is an alternative, but, as others have said, any clear acrylic should work. Acrylics will dry to the touch in minutes; they require 24 hours for a full cure. For me, this results in a finish that's between flat and satin. Can someone help answer the following questions: https://www.testors.com/pages/help-and-support/faqs/general-questions/?page=1. Use full strokes. Close but no cigar in some situations. I also use the Alclad flat kote which thins with Testors enamelthinner. I have even brushed (manual) on a thin coat to create the eggshell look in a small area. Applying too thick of a layer at one time just creates problems and a surface that isn't glass smooth. Log In. National Model Railroad Association, Inc. Thin it with lacquer thinner. I have used thinner coats when I wanted a semi-gloss or eggshell. I have also used polyurethane for clear coats. It' s a fairly simple explanation, soap is an enemy of paint, because it breaks down some substances that are present in the paint, the most importand is the pigment, that colors the paint. Model Master Metalizer is pre-thinned for spraying and will not need thinning. Share Followers 0. View our, Tools, Techniques, and Reference Materials. $24.99 + $11.45 shipping. I'll look for some, there's a large home center near me. I know, many people would sayyeah right, and i understand that, but i know all of these facts because i was a profesional painter for about 25 years, in a factory that manufactured paint. <_< Hi everybody! Ive used Tamiya X22, but my current favorite is Mission Models Clear Gloss, however I dont know if its available in Austrailia. Again, make sure the acrylic has cured at least a few days. Pledge Floor Gloss also brushes on extremely well. Gloss Clear Top Coat Spray Testors $6.90 $6.56. Just doing a single coat. The favorite varnish of rock stars! This will help ensure a smooth paint job. $5.99. ADD TO CART. It creates a clear, glossy top coat that resists water and weather so your painted surfaces look fantastic for longer periods. Thanks guys. Picture album at:http://community.webshots.com/user/dickj19 SC Johnsons Pledge Floor Care Multi-Surface Finish. But overall Testor Dull Coat is very nice. My real question is Testers 1161 Glosscote Lacquer a fairly safe bet for me that will work consistantly with the model master range? Forgot account? Large images may take a few minutes to appear. or. This is a good way to use with all sort's of clear coats, and also color coats of different sort's and brands. Testor has created a line of lacquer primers, thinners, and top coats giving modelers that extra edge to craft the paint to the right effect needed for that project. I used the Modelflex gloss coat and dull coat and didn't like them at all. Alclad Gloss. Testors. I checked with our big RR club members here in town, they say it's not touchy stuff at all, generic lacquer thinner works well. I'm not endorsing or criticizing the use of Future, just sayin'. Extend the life of your craft projects with the Testors Spray Paint, Glosscote. I also thin about 50/50same for gloss and flat. I do not use acrylics at all, so can't comment there. It takes a bit more thinner (turpentine) than Testors enamels. PrimeColor CoatTesters GlossDecal Application using MicroSolTesters Gloss Entire Model then following with weathering and tone down the car. For the small scales, this is usually faster and easier than setting up an airbrush. The answer to this question is an easy one for me: Tamiya X-22 Clear Gloss acrylic, thinned with Mr. Color Thinner. Carefully slide the backing paper out from underneath the decal film leaving the film on the application surface. I use Testors Dullcoat in the bottle. Uncached Time = Wed Mar 01 11:40:09 CST 2023, Cached Time = Wed Mar 01 11:40:08 CST 2023, Cached Time = Wed Mar 01 11:40:09 CST 2023, Cached Time = Wed Mar 01 11:35:36 CST 2023, Cached Time = Wed Mar 01 11:39:37 CST 2023, Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information. I think lacquer thinner will still work on the acrylics. Below: Placing the spray can in warm / hot water for a few minutes before spraying helps the paint go on more smoothly. When using Testor Enamels or Model Master Enamels we suggest Testor No. MarcelI paint almost exclusively with acrylics and fortunately have never experienced any cracking problems of either the clear top coats or the paint itself. 50 characters remaining, 255 characters maximum To participate you must either login or register for an account. Past weekend with Testors enamelthinner of glosscoat on my BF-109 WIP, still. Not endorsing or criticizing the use of Future, how to use testors glosscote top coat so with what is usually faster and than. Top coat that resists water and weather so your painted surfaces look fantastic for longer periods alternate that for. As others have said, any clear acrylic should work if anyone cares to share,! Any clear acrylic should work not to go to far to the cost the. 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