[15] On January 17, 1962, West scored a career-high 63 points in a 129121 win over the New York Knicks. [23] On the floor, West scored 17.6points, grabbed 7.7rebounds and gave 4.2assists per game. However, in 1951 his older brother, David, was killed in action in the Korean War, and the trauma turned West into a shy and introverted boy. He has profusely praised Oscar Robertson and others in his era. Shaver emphasized the importance of conditioning and defense, which were lessons that the teenager appreciated. West was assisted by Baylor, who was a self-estimated "75 percent" of his pre-injury self,[33] The two long-standing rivals split the first six games, with West's usual scoring dominance countered by Celtics forward John Havlicek, whose size and speed created serious mismatch problems for the Lakers. On April 19, 2022, West demanded a retraction from the network within two weeks for the "cruel" and "deliberately false" depiction, as played by actor Jason Clarke. West averaged 27.8 points, 7.0 rebounds and 5.6 assists and was again NBA All-Star and All-NBA First-Team;[15] however, he played in only 55 regular-season games, missing the last seven weeks due to a hamstring injury. [68] [69][70], On December 17, 2020, it was reported that West and the LA Clippers were under investigation by the NBA following a lawsuit filed by John Wilkes against the LA Clippers over the recruitment of Kawhi Leonard to the team. A loss just ripped his guts out., Its no wonder. CLEVELAND - "Mr. Jerry West and the Lakers won Game 3 of the 1962 NBA Finals at the buzzer. With West not yet in shape, Baylor and the Lakers fell back 32; then they succumbed in Game 6 in front of their home crowd with a 112109 loss. Before he was "The Logo" -- the model for the silhouette on every NBA player's jersey -- he was "Mr. Although West enjoyed great individual success during his prime, the teams record is a study in frustration unbelievable frustration is how West described it to the Los Angeles Times Magazine. After the Lakers heartbreaking loss to the Boston Celtics in the 1969 NBA Finals, John Havlicek walked up to West and said, Jerry, I love you. Such comments were not uncommon. After helping the Golden State Warriors win the championship against the Cleveland Cavaliers, on June 14, 2017, West announced that he would go to the Los Angeles Clippers as an executive board member and consultant. Baylor's tip-in attempt was thwarted by Sam Jones. From an individual scoring perspective, Wests peak came in the mid-1960s, as he averaged back-to-back seasons of 30+ points per game in 1964-1965 and 1965-1966: Though his scoring average would decline in three consecutive seasons thereafter, West did shoot a career-best 51.4% in 1967-1968 to the tune of 26.3 points per game, and remained an all-around scoring threat, rebounder, and playmaker for the Lakers. [36] In Game 1, West only hit seven of 24 shots, and the Lakers lost 107101, but L.A. evened out the series at two games each. He scored 19 points in the second half, leading WVU to an upset victory. According to StatMuse, only West, Oscar Robertson, John . black vs. white, East vs. West, etc. After serving in that post for more than six years, West was hired by the LA Clippers as a consultant in 2017. During halftime of Sunday's All-Star Game, 45 members of the 75th Anniversary Team including Michael Jordan, Magic Johnson and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar stood side by side on a circular stage in the middle of Rocket Mortgage FieldHouse. In Game 6, Havlicek shredded the Lakers with 40 points, and after yet another Finals loss to Boston, West commented that the Lakers lost two games they should have won: "We gave them the first game, and we gave them the fifth. The game, which was the Lakers' first home game of . Including playoff games, the Lakers record for the year was 81-16. I want to help make a difference. "When I was able to play for the Olympic team, it was great for me. Every bit West's equal was Baylor. In the 1960 NBA Draft, Robertson was drafted first overall (territorial pick) by the Cincinnati Royals (now the Sacramento Kings) and dominated from the get-go, averaging 30.5 points (47.3% shooting), 10.1 rebounds, and a league-high 9.7 assists per game as a rookie; as a result, he was Rookie of the Year, made the first of his 12 consecutive All-Star Game appearances, and earned the first of nine straight First Team All-NBA selections. Both are the most prolific assist men of their periods. "I'm very fortunate that I was one of those athletes.". It was particularly frustrating because I was playing so poorly that the team overcame me. "Not a day goes by when I don't think about that Olympic experience.". [8], West attended East Bank High School in East Bank, West Virginia from 1952 to 1956. After taking the series lead on Baylors then record 61-point performance in Game 5, Los Angeles dropped the next two. [31] However, in the 1965 NBA Finals, the Celtics easily beat the short-handed Lakers, 41. A smallish youth, West didnt make his junior high football, baseball or track teams. [50][51] West conceded that he had played a terrible series, and credited the team for the success. Oscar Robertson was the only college player to finish the March Madness career with four triple-doubles. Entering the same 1960 NBA Draft as Robertson, West was selected right after Robertson with the second overall pick by the Minneapolis Lakers, who soon relocated to California and became the Los Angeles Lakers. Overall, both Robertson and West played 14 NBA seasons from 1960-1974, with Robertson having a 100+ games played advantage due to better health. After practice he would listen to West Virginia basketball games on the radio. West won Schaus's trust and, alternating with Hundley, Selvy, and Leonard, played 35 minutes per game and established himself as the Lakers' second scoring option. MIES (Switzerland) - It happened more than half a century ago, yet for two of the biggest legends in the sport, USA's Jerry West and Oscar Robertson, memories of the gold-medal winning run at the Olympic Games in Rome are crystal clear. In 2002, West became general manager of the Memphis Grizzlies and helped the franchise win their first-ever playoff berths. Oscar Robertson vs Jerry West. Sure did," said Jerry West. Following another Finals loss in 1970, this time to the New York Knicks, the Lakers finally broke through in 1972 and beat the Knicks in five games for the only NBA title of Wests career; ironically, it was one of the worst individual postseasons of his career, as he averaged only 22.9 points, 4.9 rebounds, and a league-best 8.9 assists per game. [18] In his collegiate career, West totaled 2,309points and 1,240rebounds. Detroit Pistons legend Isiah Thomas recalls the conversation quite well. He thought of the broken noses, the broken hands, the pulled muscles and the lost championships. [41] In Game 3, Russell opted to double-team West, and the guard's exhaustion began to show: West twice asked to be subbed for longer periods, and both times the Lakers fell back by double digits and finally lost by sixpoints. And also, West can still feel the sensation of receiving his gold medal. RELATED: Kobe's Final Game Was The Perfect Farewell. Oscar Robertson, however, demurred about change in general in basketball. "They have everything it takes to win a championship. He averaged 24.8points per game and 13.3rebounds. [78] On June 1, 2019, President Donald Trump announced West would receive the Presidential Medal of Freedom. Fittingly, Thomas remembered the Big O agreeing with Wests assessment. It seems to bother the Big O more than West, this dulling of fans' memories of their glory days. sk* pam* rbtsn; Charlotte, 24 novembre 1938) un ex cestista statunitense di ruolo guardia.. Soprannominato The Big O, disput 14 campionati NBA con le maglie dei Cincinnati Royals e dei Milwaukee Bucks, vincendo con questi ultimi il titolo nel 1971.Nel 1962 fu il primo giocatore nella storia dell'NBA a concludere una stagione con una tripla . He then embarked on a 14-year career with the Los Angeles Lakers, and was the co-captain of the 1960 U.S. Olympic gold medal team, a squad that was inducted as a unit into the Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame in 2010. Through the 1970s, most basketball experts would say Robertson was the greatest guard to . Jerry West (L) and Oscar Robertson. [64] West himself won his second NBA Executive of the Year Award in the same year. Before Game 1, West privately complained to Bill Russell of exhaustion, but then the Lakers guard scored 53 points on Boston in a close two-point win. You still have to shoot, rebound, pass and play defense," said Robertson, who was honored with West at The Q on Thursday in the 50th anniversary year of their Olympic basketball triumph for the USA in 1960 in Rome. One of the salient features that differentiate the 50s and 60s basketball from eras that came later is the lack of emphasis on stats. It was a beautiful thing wasted, West later said. During their overlapping careers, Robertson and West faced off head-to-head on 94 occasions. One of the game's most gifted players, Elgin Baylor made 10 appearances on the All-NBA first team. Both scored a ton. [33], The 196667 NBA season saw West playing only 66 regular-season games due to injury;[22] his averages fell slightly to 28.0points, 5.9rebounds and 6.8assists per game. His first season in Milwaukee was his best, as he averaged 19.4 points (49.6% shooting), 5.7 rebounds, and 8.2 assists per game for Second Team All-NBA honors. Van Lier: Condition:--not specified. High 49F. It only makes sense that he also seeks validation. Clippers coach, Doc Rivers, floated the idea of West joining the organization during the 2016 season. Choosing to stay local, he played college basketball at West Virginia University, where he was a 2x First Team All-American, 2x Southern Conference Player of the Year, and NCAA Final Four Most Outstanding Player in 1959 as the Mountaineers narrowly lost to Cal in the finals by a 71-70 score. He practiced shooting until his fingers bled. The Knicks Walt Frazier recalled thinking as West let the miracle shot fly, The mans crazy. In some ways, the decision of who was better comes down to personal preferences on playing style do you prefer Robertson with his penchant for racking up triple-doubles or West with his silky smooth moves and shooting? To hear Jerry West and to see Jerry West talk about Oscar Robertson Ill never forget it. "We stayed in dorms. Combine a deadly jump shot, tenacious defense, obsessive perfectionism, unabashed confidence, and an uncompromising will to win, and youve got Jerry West, one of the greatest guards in NBA history. [23] Baylor once commented: "Rumors are safe with you, Tweety Bird. The same road is shared on the south end of Morgantown with Don Knotts Boulevard, in honor of another WVU alumnus. He and the Lakers routinely experienced heartbreak at the hands of the Boston Celtics. During an interview on HBO's Real Sports with Bryant Gumbel, West revealed that as a child he was the victim of physical abuse from his father and has suffered from depression ever since. It's a test of your strength and stamina and playing ability, really. Today, both are remembered as among the all-time greats, with Wests silhouette gracing the NBAs logo, but it is impossible not to compare the two players and ask: Who was better Oscar Robertson or Jerry West? For most of the game, the Lakers trailed, but West and Frank Selvy hit several clutch baskets and tied the game at 100. [13] In his freshman year (195657), West was a member of the WVU freshman squad that achieved a perfect record of 17 wins without a loss over the course of the season;[13] other team members included Jay Jacobs and Willie Akers. Your inbox approves The power couples & . [20] His college coach was also hired to coach the Lakers. Oscar Robertson weighs in as Russell Westbrook attempts to join the Big O's one-man club. Jerry West is a legendary Lakers guard. RotoWire considers the best player values in Yahoo fantasy leagues for Wednesday night's slate. West said, turning to a chuckling Robertson. Advertisement. [26] The Celtics tied the series in Game 6 at three games apiece, and the teams headed to Boston for Game 7. [8] He was the fifth of six children of Cecil Sue West, a housewife, and Howard Stewart West, a coal mine electrician. Wilt Chamberlain talks about how his contemporaries Jerry West and co wouldn't pursue stats He went on to average 14.8 points and 8.1 rebounds for six . "Certain players seem to be able to do things in a certain part of the game that they might not be able to do earlier," said West. Could you live on that?" And, you know, Oscar said, You right, Jerry.'. The team was powered by Sharman's emphasis on tough defense and fast break offense, and L.A. embarked on an unprecedented 33 game win streak, en route to a then-record 69 wins in the regular season. They were also both on the gold medal winning team at the 1959 Pan American Games. Robertson named West among his top five. Checkout the list of all the 1966-67 NBA Leaders along with their teams, categories and more on Basketball-Reference.com West helped to build the great 1980s Lakers dynasty, also known as Showtime, which brought five championship rings (1980, 1982, 1985, 1987, and 1988) to Los Angeles. The Big O appeared on the Knuckleheads podcast to discuss his favorite players in league history. Gail Goodrich's all-around play from the backcourt made him a perennial All-Star and, eventually, an NBA champion. He spoke with a high pitched voice that became even shriller when he became excited so that Lakers captain Elgin Baylor dubbed West "Tweety Bird". [12] They have three sons, David, Mark and Michael. Boston won in overtime, 110-107. ESPN has been the primary culprit in driving stat-driven basketball analysis, making the game hollow in the general publics minds. [76] On February 17, 2011, a statue of West was unveiled outside Staples Center at the Star Plaza in Los Angeles, California. "I told coach Wooden, 'I'll play him for lunch every day, and he'll pay.' [42] As after Baylor's injury years before, West stepped into the void, leading the NBA in scoring average with 31.2 points per game, and averaging 4.6 rebounds and 7.5 assists per game, earning him his first of four All-Defensive First Team votes and another All-NBA First Team berth after two Second Team years. West is still regarded as one of the best pure scorers in NBA history. While his famous triple-double season would come a year later, Robertson got off to a fast start right out of the gate during his 1960-61 rookie season in which he . Enjoying a prolific 14-year NBA career with the Cincinnati Royals and Milwaukee Bucks, Robertson amassed 26,710 points and 9,887 assists. West played the small forward position early in his career, and he was a standout at East Bank High School and at West Virginia University, where he led the Mountaineers to the 1959 NCAA championship game. [8] Having played forward early in his career, West was also a capable rebounder, and gifted with long arms, quick hands, and strong defensive instincts, West was also once described as one of the best ballhawks, man-to-man defenders and shot blockers among NBA guards:[23] when the All-Defensive Teams were introduced in 1969, West made every one of them until his career ended in 1974. Answer (1 of 15): I would Jerry West because he was on the All Defensive Team five times and Oscar was on none. ". Clutch," passing up the shot himself because he is, after all, 71 years old. [20] In March 2008, ESPN voted West the third greatest shooting guard of all time. Asked who he likes to win it all this year, West remained loyal to the Lakers dynasty he built as a general manager. MIES (Switzerland) - It happened more than half a century ago, yet for two of the biggest legends in the sport, USA's Jerry West and Oscar Robertson, memories of the gold-medal winning run at theOlympic Games in Rome are crystal clear. 14 minutes of The Big O! His best opportunity for a title with the Royals came in 1962-1963, when they advanced to the Eastern Division Finals, but lost to the eventual champion Boston Celtics in seven games despite the Big Os 31.8 points, 13.0 rebounds, and 9.0 assists per game in the postseason. [15] He tied the NCAA five-game tournament record of 160points (32.0points per game) and led all scorers and rebounders in every West Virginia game, including getting 28points and 11rebounds in a 7170 loss to California in the final. FTA complete back to 1948-49. "[83], West was also regarded for his extreme mental toughness and his exemplary work ethic. [39] West was disturbed by locker room tension; used to playing on teams with good chemistry, his quality of play became erratic, and his scoring average of 25.9 points was his lowest since his rookie season. Roma Invicta, which means Unconquered Rome, was an inspirationalmottoused until the fall of the WesternRomanEmpire, in 476 AD. Three of the Finals went seven games, with the Lakers losing two of those Game 7s to the Celtics by a single basket. [43][45], In the 197071 NBA season, the Lakers reacquired Gail Goodrich, who came back from the Phoenix Suns after playing for L.A. until 1968. Unfortunately for West, individual success could not prevent. On October 19th in 1960, Jerry West and Oscar Robertson made their NBA debut for the Los Angeles Lakers and the Cincinnati Royals respectively. West's mid-range jump shot became his trademark and he often used it to score while under pressure from opposing defenses. They were 39-3 at midseason and finished at 69-13, the best single-season record in NBA history until the 1995-96 Bulls (72-10) bested it.. After his playing career ended, West took over as head coach of the Lakers for three years. https://youtu.be/JXQniGgIIwM https://youtu.be . At the same time, West was likewise a standout high school player, winning West Virginia Player of the Year honors and leading his high school team to a state championship. Steals and blocks came into official book-keeping during the mid-70s. Basketball had not yet sacrificed fundamentals for potential. Neither Chamberlains 50 point, 25.7 rebound average nor Oscars triple-double average swayed the media from such a view. But his all-around excellence was unprecedented for a guard. It seems to mark a change from the way the final minutes are officiated today, when "no hemorrhage, no foul" is the rule. [ 1] During that time, West was the better scorer (27.0 to 25.7), but Robertson grabbed more rebounds (7.5 to 5.8) and averaged more assists (9.5 to 6.7) and also had slightly better shooting percentages. . They're all that way on the Celtics, and you can't teach it. He led Los Angeles into the playoffs each year and earned a Western Conference Finals berth once. Prior to the 1971-72 season, the 33-year-old West was considering retirement. All videos are . For Hall of Fame caliber players across sports, I like to look at a concept I call a decade of dominance. The thinking behind this is that for most Hall of Fame type careers, there are roughly 10 great seasons that define an athlete (this idea is embodied in a sense by the NFLs All-Decade teams), though due to injury or other factors, they might not be 10 consecutive years. Your email address will not be published. You pass them on, but nobody can understand you. Moreover, half the battle is actually being on the court and so Robertsons better durability also gives him another slight edge in this close head-to-head matchup. [17], During his junior year (195859), West scored 26.6 points per game and grabbed 12.3 rebounds per game. "There's all the publicity today for a 19-year-old player who might not be that good a player. Chamberlain inbounded the ball to West, who raced past Walt Frazier and threw up a 60-foot shot. He died aged 67. [83] Apart from being shy, West was always restless: Schaus described him as a "bundle of nerves", Celtics contemporary Bob Cousy as "always on the move", and fellow Laker and Mountaineer Rod Hundley testified that during bar visits, West would quickly squirm and demand to go elsewhere before everybody else had settled. 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