And second, Mr. Hayes did nothing to convince me that he would embrace me as a disgraced member of the church. Second, Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. encouraged color blindness. God has to be deeply saddened by this, knowing that so much more could be done. Ricardo Barbosa December 25, 2014. ", When asked during the Q&A session whether he considers himself a conservative, Hayes said he is "as conservative as they come.". Instead, Wicker was quickly forced out. An earlier version of this article named the group accused of stealing the email addresses as concerned FBCN members. Thanks for submitting! First Baptist Naples has a byzantine process that allows the pastoral staff to recommend to the deacons the expulsion of a member. At the same time, some members were concerned about some of his social media posts that might indicate support for a pro-abortion, pro-LGBTQ Democrat presidential candidate, his endorsement of the problematic book Woke Church, his blocking some FBCN members on his social media platforms, and other theological, political, and administrative issues. . And this statement was made by an African American pastor on Moody Radio. Sylee Gibson, an excommunicated member who works in law enforcement, added that the man chairing the FBC Naples senior pastor search team is a Florida businessman with a checkered pastNeil Dorrill. fell short of the 85% vote required to install him as a pastor. However, Mancini added that the situation at FBC Naples was not typical but did not want to comment on the unique circumstances at the church. It isnt white people who have turned on the evil and hate. Wicker, a former President of the Florida Baptist Convention and the SBC Pastors' Conference, was such a high-profile leader and fundraiser for Baptist causes that his retirement was covered by Baptist Press, which reported the following on February 4th: They arrived in Naples and gathered other Baptist families to meet with them in a small outbuilding behind the local grocery store, meeting for their first worship . Naples, FL 34109 (239) 597-2233. "It has nothing to do with race," said William Ericksen, a member of the church for five years and part of the group. The so-called dissenters had issues with what the church was doing WELL BEFORE Marcus Hayes arrived. and make way for younger leadership to carry the ministry forward. Yet Easter services would be the last time Wicker would preach at FBC Naples. According to sources, Wicker wanted a long period of transition to the new leadership, with even an overlap to help the transition process. Church leadership responded in an email to members, calling the Voices of FBCNs email inaccurate and slanderous and claiming that a security breach of the churchs email list had occurred. Hayes, a black man married to a white woman, However, no one even begins to acknowledge that this system is the product of Hayes ministry. The GRAND OLD STANDARD, the Baptist Faith and the Message, swallowed up by an effective indoctrination of the Faithful by the Left. Been here 25+ times. Wicker spent 27 years as pastor of First Baptist Church of Naples. Does my agreement with Dr. King and my deep concerns about intersectionality, et al, make me a racist? The church decided to use the racism card instead ACTUALLY deal with the real issues going on. I believe Hayes was rejected because of racism. church as large as FBC Naples. To donate. The whole clergy-laity distinction, senior pastor, associate pastor, the professional, or called into the ministry Christians is not found ANYWHERE in the New Testament.NO WHERE! According to the inside source, soon after his employment at FBC Naples ended, Wicker was banned from the church campus. In 2001, Dorrill pled guilty to racketeering conspiracy charges in connection with the Stadium Naples corruption scandal. "We all realize that the year of 2019 has been very difficult in the life of our church," Dorrill said. I just wish so many from my former church would open their eyes and see whats going on. Isnt that how we should judge any one persons claims, by how it squares with Scripture on a case-by-case basis? How about Luke 16:11 So if you have not been trustworthy in handling worldly wealth, who will trust you with true riches? Men who run a church into so much debt that it is soon bankrupt with one plague of pestilence, why do we believe Jesus gave such man any true riches or wisdom at all? Find more information about the groups that meet throughout the week by clicking below. Last fall, First Baptist Church (FBC) Naplesa prominent Southern Baptist megachurch in southwest Floridamade national headlines for rejecting an African American pastoral candidate because of some alleged racist members. 1/2: 17+yr member of FBCN and attendee here! And guess what? Caudill said no one replied to his letter. The search for a senior pastor continues, with Dorrill leading the search committee. Nothing new in this article. "They are reaching their community and showing the care and love that the community desperately needs." Photos courtesy of FBC Naples Hearts With Hands Some of these blacks are church leaders. Your tax-deductible gift helps our journalists report the truth and hold Christian leaders and organizations accountable. The turmoil at FBC Naples began about a year ago, when longtime Senior Pastor Hayes Wicker announced to the church that he was stepping down to make way for younger fresher leadership.. FirstNaples.org My Account Login There is no room in our Gospel for racism, none whatsoever. First Naples glorifies God by being a multigenerational, multiethnic, multiplying church, that raises up the next generation of disciple makers, church planters, missionaries, and world changers, to reach Naples to the Nations. this approach to transition can become a helpful model for other churches.. Instead, the group alleges that the racism charge was a ruse by men who had recently seized control of the church, expelled and maligned a beloved pastor of 27 years, and then fabricated a basis for excommunicating those who had objected. "It had to do with biblical principals that many questioned," she wrote. Specialties: First Baptist Church Naples is a church family that is unified on several basic theological understandings, which are based in our understanding of God's Word. Church sees massive budget shortfall since longtime pastor retired. The pastor was amazing, the atmosphere electrifying, we had fallen in love with the pastor. However, no evidence of racism has yet been produced. Your tax-deductible gift helps our journalists report the truth and hold Christian leaders and organizations accountable. Sad on many, many levels! He didnt mentioned anything in the question and answer sessions or his sermon that gave me any indication reconciling and unifying our church was even on his radar. I certainly agree with you wholeheartedly, Grant. And because it promises rewards to individuals and organizations influence, students, platform it is both very hard to criticize and functionally unaccountable to any but its own. The refusal to release specific documents to any donating member, also a violation of not only the by-laws (which was the same verbiage as the state law) but also the state of Florida Not-for-profit Compliance Act and the IRS which governs their 501(c)(3) status. If this pastoral candidate supportes a book that divides the church along ethnic lines and stirs up divisions in the body of Christ, it is sad that he received as many votes as he did. However, CT said it was not able to confirm whether Biltmore Church received such communications. The day after excommunicating the 18 members, FBC Naples lay leadership and pastoral staff sent an open letter to the SBC, accusing some who didnt vote for Hayes, whos a member of the SBC Executive Committee, of racism. We live in UK now as did Naples Baptist 1st Associate Minisiter but come to Naples Baptist every Dec/Jan. The situation at FBC Naples should serve as a solemn reminder to church members everywhere to ensure that their by-laws provide church members biblical protections from rogue staff members who would seek to dominate their church. I do not intend to allow blackmail to prevail at this point and would hope that you would support me. Honestly, the system that ousted him is the machine he created. *I use scare quotes because the Woke phenom is only relevant in a certain context: it is very Americentric (talking like all white people are the same, for example), and not culturally or ethnically sensitive at all when on looks at the ethnic makeup of the church IN OTHER COUNTRIES. ", Dorrill said there had been "a concerted campaign of misinformation filled with destructive and divisive content." Totally the act of Satan in this issue because where the Spirit of the Lord is there is peace. From the reporting in this article, it seems clear that more light needs to be shed on events. FBA@FBALions.org. The deacons vote on it, and, if they approve the recommendation, the individual then is informed. If I had known that, there would have been no resignation whatsoever.. Considering slave owners slept with slaves (even in my own ancestry), whites befriended their black help all while denying their equal rights it is possible to have friends and even spouses of other races and still have issues with bias and prejudice. Gretchen Church, who said on Twitter that she has been a member of First Baptistfor more than 17 years, tweeted that racism had nothing to do with voting. Selected and edited comments from an article by Carl Trueman, Revoice, Evangelical Culture, and the Return of an Old Friend (July 31, 2018). But more importantly, Ericksen said, members feel their voice isn't being heard by church leaders. Bunch of old white guys with too much time on their hands and too many books in their personal theology libraries. The church staff alleged that racism was behind the rejection. The church by-laws allow for the expulsion of members without consulting the entire church body. Items. emails from the accused church members reveal that dissenters were Gas. More about this ministry: Welcome to First Naples! I know that can seem like a simple concept, but it seems to be forgotten when the well a black person disagrees with it! argument is used. So much for giving church members the benefit of the doubt. Dwight McKissic, a prominent African American SBC pastor in Arlington, Texas. He and his wife and his children love God and Gods people. My heart goes out to his family. Need to read the book by Shelby Steele White Guilt where he lays out perfectly the Marist agenda going on. At the end of the service we found the pastor in The Commons area. We are so glad you've chosen to join us. Allegedly he said he was happy to see some people in SBC membership moved to the bottom as others move to the top. To be blunt, it stinks and the whiff of corruption I detect is an autocratic sense of entitlement, with a touch of greed, perhaps, as well. The First Naples School of Worship Arts exists to develop Christ-honoring worshipers through quality instruction for the purpose of exalting the Lord with their God-given talents and abilities. The Roys Report seeks to foster thoughtful and respectful dialogue. If there is any racism its from Pastor Hayes and his endorsement of Woke Movement. Church leaders have alleged that race played a role in the failed vote to affirm Hayes, causing a firestorm of heated discussion on social media and spawning posts by religious websites and blogs. I guess the good news is that we are all free to move to a different church whenever we like. Get directions, reviews and information for First Baptist Church - Naples in Naples, FL. The film makes note that Marcus Hayes was subsequently ramrodded in Crossroads Church Texas. We've got a Bible & Life Group that's perfect for . In 2016, under the leadership of its former pastor, the church changed its bylaws to adopt the85%approval rule, instead of a simple or super-majority, Stearns continued. In addition to this ungodly action, a criminal investigation was instigated by church leadership over email addresses that were allegedly stolen from the church by an anonymous group calling itself Voices of FBCN. It does not suddenly make a point valid or invalid. Food. This remains an elephant in the room at every worship service at that church. The group adds that national leaders within FBC Napless denomination, the Southern Baptist Convention (SBC), supported the churchs leadership and furthered the racism charge. Visit: firstnaples.org/media. Following worship services on December 7 and 8, receptions were held to honor Edies six years at the church. Let us pray for you. Ive already been excommunicated and humiliated. Just fill out this form and let us know your needs. There are many more than five things you should know about this situation that obviously you either do not know, or have chosen to ignore because they dont support your rhetoric. Giving. political and theological statements and his lack of experience leading a In the tweet, the attorney, Lee Merritt, wrote in part that investigators claim "all the shooter saw was black" and said that was "exactly the problem.". Our Pastoral Search Committee, lay leadership, and the Pastoral Staff all anticipated that our vote would be nothing less than an affirmative statement from our people that God had sovereignly chosen for Marcus Hayes to be our next Pastor. Now, church members who have been removed from membership over their opposition to the appointment of Marcus Hayes are in fear that they may be unable to witness their children graduate. Pastor John David Edie, who wrote the open letter to the SBC on behalf of leaders at FBC Naples, alleging racism, resigned in early December. It is a populist movement of tremendous influence and minimal accountability. Last JUST STOP THE HATE. Proverbs 18:17. On May 28, Caudill said the church placed him on disciplinary suspension from the deacon board and the senior pastor search team. And in 2006, Wicker served as head of the SBC Pastors Conference. I would know. If this were a Calvary Chapel organization, or any other offshoot of Chuck Smiths piracy, no one would be surprised. Am I not allowed as a deacon and 15+ year member of the church to ask questions about leaders who in my opinion have lied and deceived the church for political gain? Per the church's constitution and bylaws, a senior pastor must be affirmed by a margin of at least 85% of the vote, but Hayes only garnered 81%of the vote, with 1,552 "yes" votes compared to 365 "no" votes. They released a statement to the church family blaming racism for the rejection of Marcus Hayes. A portion of the 19% that voted against Marcus Hayes did so based on racial prejudices. I dont think that it was right how they treated him. The following Tuesday, April 23, Wicker met with FBC Naples leaders including Dorrill, Chairman of the Personnel Committee Troy Boone, Chairman of the Finance Committee Don Collier, and Chairman of Deacons Terry Cole. Jemel Roberson was in my student ministry while I was a youth pastor in Chicago. FBC Naples, Floridas longtime senior pastor Hayes Wicker announced his retirement from pastoring the church in January 2019. The message at FBCN is clear: get along or get out. We were on cloud nine. The shooting drew national headlines, outrage and questions about whether race factored into the officers decision to open fire. We reached out to leaders at FBC Naples about a dozen times, seeking evidence for the racism charge, as well as comment on other issues at the church, but no one responded. Did people voice concerns and questions about Marcus? Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. In November, just weeks after the church excommunicated 18 members, John Garippa, a longtime FBC Naples member who led two popular Bible Studies at FBC Naples, left the church. Jonathan Akin is also national director of young leaders for SBCs North American Mission Board. First, I didnt think it was fair to put a new pastor in the midst of such corruption and confusion. (Hayes this month took his first senior pastor position at a church in Texas.). ".for my house will be called a house of prayer for all nations." Isaiah 56:7 Need Prayer? Also concerning to the group was the fact that Marcus Hayes didnt respond to a letter Concerned Members of FBCN had sent him a week earlier, outlining their issues at the church. At the time, Wicker seemed to be well-respected by his church and denomination. weekend the congregation failed Garippa, who was never part of Concerned Members of FBCN, declined to comment on why he left FBC Naples. We have known Hayes & his family as good Christian people etc.for over 25 years. But key conferences and key organizations had a vested interest in sidestepping orthodoxy and demonizing any who pointed that out. If you promote that, take a LONG look in the mirror. In the spring of 1945, Reverend Joseph Engel, his wife and young son were sent by the Brookdale Baptist Church of Bloomfield, New Jersey to plant new churches in South Florida. The petition for a special business meeting was never even ACKNOWLEDGED by the leadership is a Violation of the bylaws. Hayes Wicker announced his retirement in January with the intention of reaching a mutually agreed upon exit date with church leadership. This is why I dont attend a church and work on my relationship with God on a daily basis. They make me want to Puke profusely second only to Calvary Chapel. At Berean Baptist Church, we have one message-the message of the Lord Jesus Christ, and one ministry-the ministry He has given us to go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature. Greear, who had written a letter of recommendation for Marcus Hayes, called the open letter by FBC Naples leadership a bold, Gospel-faithful response of the leadership of FBC Naples. Greear added, Let us be united in lament that any vestige of this kind of sinful prejudice remains in our churches., Also, Danny Akin, president of SBC-affiliated Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary (SEBTS), described the open letter as a strong and redemptive word from FBC Naples.. Several"inappropriate emails" were sent to Hayes' home church in North Carolina, including to his ministry assistant and his boss, the senior pastor there, "sharing and establishing that certain groups will not vote for him this weekend without a private meeting in advance to have issues of theirs addressed," Dorrill said at the Oct. 24 event. We likewise contacted SBC President J.D. Where in the N.T. Sandra received her Bachelor's degree in Elementary Education from our local college, Florida Gulfcoast University in 2001. ", Church officials, however, have been largely mum on the details of the alleged campaign and racism. Connect with the reporter at patrick.riley@naplesnews.com or on Twitter @PatJRiley. We must keep those objectives straight; we are not entitled to wage warfare against people or to enter into diplomatic relations with anti-Christian ideas. First Baptist Church - Naples 3000 Orange Blossom Dr Naples FL 34109 (239) 597-6057 Claim this business (239) 597-6057 Website More Directions Advertisement We are so thankful for the godly staff who serve the Lord and lead our FBCNaples family! You obviously didnt pay attention to everything in that article, only the points you chose to focus on on. I think there were people in the church who were afraid of having a black pastor, especially one who does not subscribe to the ridiculous and ungodly notion of colorblindness and one who holds the racial views that Hayes does. Regardless of what specific concerns were held, its important to know that 1) no evidence of genuine racism on the part of those holding them has surfaced, and 2) the efforts these members made to ask questions and express reservations were not taken seriously. Wicker said in late October, when FBC Naples excommunicated the 18 members, it also stopped paying him his severance. I can tell you I am not a racist. United States But, then again, with such an unmistakable history of racism behind it, predicting which way the SBC would jump in response to a charge of racism would be too easy. We recall the old Church too. First Baptist Church has had problems for years. (I)t seems from social media posts that, with no investigation, some convention leaders have chosen to believe this narrative, Caudill wrote. Theyve even released an open letter to the SBC with the same claim. ", CONSIDER SUBSCRIBING TODAY: Help support local journalism, More: Read the letter from First Baptist to church members regarding voting results, In a letter to church membersshortly after the failed vote, the church pointed the finger at groupscalled "Voices of FBCN" and"Group of Concerned FBCN Members.". First Baptist Church Naples. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. THAT IS OK! "And, as a result of that, there have been groups who honestly feel a little disenfranchised. Boy oh boy. I saw that simply as a distraction from the devil.. In addition, those who have been excommunicated, as well as former Pastor Hayes Wicker, say they feel like their reputations have been sullied. Church discipline for dissenting members was greeted with wild applause. Ill never bother with a Church again, because this is always going to be an issue. Upvote 1 Downvote. I am not lesser or better, but different. Naples, FL 34109 (239) 597-2233. At least four emails were "broadly sent," he wrote, with others privately sent. Hi, Carla. Wicker responded with a 16-page letter refuting the charges against him. The Asbury Revival Is Over. MLKs dream was about us all being seen as equal in VALUE and treated accordingly, regardless of our differences. Havent hurt enough yet. No, Again. to be clear. Editors note: This story has been updated to reflect accurate information regarding the participants at a meeting of FBC Naples leaders on April 23. Despite these red flags, leaders in the Southern Baptist Convention (SBC) have supported leaders at FBC Naples. In June, Voices of FBCN sent an email to many in the church, criticizing the actions of church leadership. It also appears that the SBC concluded too soon who was in the right. We believe all matters of life should be subjected to the Scriptures (2 Timothy 3:16). This group was engaged in an email campaign to inform church members about various concerns with Marcus Hayes. Terms of Service Racial prejudice a factor in rejection of black pastor, read the headline of a piece published in the Baptist Standard. ADMISSIONS ATHLETICS BLOG CALENDAR CONTACT EMPLOYMENT FIRST NAPLES CHURCH GIVE . Hayes pastoral appointment of doing so out of racial prejudice and announced that Rather than bringing members who are accused of sin before the church body for examination, members are being removed from the church rolls through actions taken directly by deacons and pastoral staff without a vote of the church body. "We know this because of the campaign that started just days before by a few disgruntled people in our church.". In it, the group details questions it has about Hayes' qualifications, his tweets and beliefs. A lengthyOct. 24 email signed by the "group of concerned FBCN members"and obtained by the Daily News was titled "Concerns Surfacing About Compatibility with Marcus Hayes." It is time for the SBC to do what they should have done first, before concluding who was right: Shine the light, Brothers, shine the light in here. Such a loving bunch, arent they?!). Bonnett told the Daily News in an email Wednesday no revote has been scheduled. Read the letter from the church to the Southern Baptist Convention, question and answer session with Hayes and his wife, Read the letter from First Baptist to church members regarding voting results, fatal shooting of a black security guard by a white police officer, Police release name of cop who killed black security guard who was corralling a gunman, Your California Privacy Rights/Privacy Policy. However, leaked And it is must never be carried out with retribution in mind, but always with the hope of restoration. "My heart goes out to his family," Hayes wrote. Also, any comments with profanity, name-calling, and/or a nasty tone will be deleted. Sad state of affairs. Any copyrighted material displayed or referenced is done under the doctrine of fair use. Exactly right. concerned with factors other than racism, such as Marcus Hayes The FBC Naples leaders vowed to deal with this sinful cancer and added that church discipline had already started. We reached out to Phillips Harvey Group and FBC Naples to confirm, but they did not respond. It may interest you to go over to TWW and read their article, as well as the comments from members of that church who state they were unfairly misrepresented in their vote against this new pastor. On Easter weekend, Wicker said he received a text message that several chairmen wanted to meet with him about church unrest. Wicker said he tried to ignore it. However, at some point the church leadership became hostile to the longtime pastor, according to church members. "Marcus Hayes, a highly respected and a well-qualified pastor, remains the man that we believe God has called to be our next pastor," Dorrill said to a standing ovation from the congregation. I actually want you to see me as a black woman, because that has shaped my experiences in life how people have reacted to me, treated me, etc. ", "While racial issues were brought into play, and horrifically there indeed were some who did not approve Rev. Akins son, Jonathan Akin, is currently serving as interim pastor at FBC Naples. The controversy, which quickly spread in religious circles online, has suddenly thrust the North Naples church into an unwelcome spotlight, much to the dismay of some members. If not please hold your comments. If all things had been equal and fair, our story would not have reached as far and wide, and stoked the emotions that it has. He said the church was hopeful that Hayes would allow his name to be reconsidered as the church's next senior pastor or interim pastor. Christianity Today (CT) reported in November that Neil Dorrill had claimed at a Q&A session that inappropriate emails had been sent to Hayess church in North Carolina, Biltmore Church. Coffee. The first to plead his case seems right, Until another comes and examines him. is a pastoral search committee? "To our knowledge, he has never handleda multi-million-dollar budget, building programs, fundraising and/or staffing issues as required by a Senior Pastor," the group wrote. Until this happens FBCN will be a former great ministry. Carla, thanks to my excommunicated status, I guess you could call me one of the dissenters and racists. A racist, leftist marxist movement and which claims blacks were muzzled for 150 years now its whites turn to be face the same treatment. Yet despite all thats happened, Wicker said, I pray people would not use this to come against megachurches or seeing all committees as bad.. As a seasonal member of FBCN during the events you cover here I can share how troubling this is. Colson thought so highly of an oath of integrity that Wicker had written that Colson included the oath in his landmark book,The Body. The congregation must find a way to publicly be able to bring Hayes Wicker and his family back into this fellowship as loved and former members. Grocery. Why abide with a corrupt individual being in a leadership position at the church? Its no wonder why real born again, followers of the Lord Jesus Christ are walking away from churches, not the body of our Lord Jesus, the Ekklesia, but from this mess we call church. Most church experiences, when it comes to a new Senior Pastor, are just that, a celebration and a time of looking forward with hope and optimism to what God has for the future. I lived it. Pastor Hayes is the Pastor. For sales or technical support please click here. And if He wanted us all to be the same, He wouldve made us the same. With biblical principals that many questioned, '' she wrote the reporting in this because. Stadium Naples corruption scandal or get out concerns about intersectionality, et al make... 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